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Very sorry to hear this. This is a loss and a personal loss. Meyer and I discussed the Cooper case by telephone over the years. Aside from his interest in the Cooper case (Meyer collected many sand samples for people and participated in many explorations of the Tena Bar area...) Meyer was interested in Cooper's grudge and what Cooper meant by 'this was the right plane in the right place at the right time,'. Meyer thought if we could get to the bottom of that, it would identify who Cooper was. 'Was the hijacking spontaneous or something Cooper had been planning for and was going to do, inevitably'. On a personal level, Meyer played a vital service role in his community over many years, educationally and socially. This is a loss for many people for many reasons. Meyer's enthusiasm and activism will be missed by many people ... travel well my friend!

Even better - how can they keep processing and rejecting suspects on prints ? Unless, there are more prints collected after Reno that have never been revealed so far ?

Prints are a big issue in this case. The FBI has used prints to evaluate suspects endlessly, except we are told the prints collected were of no value! It cant be both. Have value but were of no value! If the prints had no value then every single case of using them, had no value - over and over again endlessly!

You and FJ have such a total grasp of these files - its a pleasure to just come here to read!

Interesting article on Tosaw ::::: UPI Archives Nov. 23, 1982 Former FBI agent claims D.B. Cooper survived his jump By CLYDE JABIN PORTLAND, Ore. -- Legendary skyjacker D.B. Cooper survived his parachuting from a airliner on Thanksgiving Eve 11 years ago but lost the $200,000 ransom in the Columbia River, a former FBI agent says. Richard Tosaw, now a Ceres, Calif., attorney, is backing his theory by paying for a 27-foot boat to drag the river dividing Oregon and Washington near where some of the $20 bills that were part of the loot were found nearly three years ago. 'So far all they have found is inner tubes, tires, household appliances, pieces of trees and other articles,' he said. 'It is going to be interesting if they find anything (from the skyjacking).' Tosaw is hoping boat owner Blake Payne and crewman Bill Sweeney will either find more of the money, the bank money bag or the parachute. Tosaw, 57, who is writing a book on the skyjacking, is making a check on the progress of the search. About $5,800 of the ransom was found Feb. 10, 1980, by Brian Ingram, who now lives in Highland, Calif. Because the money was found along the Columbia, Tosaw figures Cooper came down further south than the area southwest of volcanic Mount St. Helens where the FBI thought he landed. Extensive searches immediately after the Nov. 24, 1971, skyjacking failed to turn up a clue and officials speculated Cooper had died. Tosaw, who was an FBI agent from 1951 to 1955, said he became interested in the crime after part of the loot was found. Since then he has done extensive research -- interviewing the six crew members on the Northwest Airlines Flight 305 that was hijacked on a Portland to Seattle run and other people involved in the case. He also surveyed 100 parachutists on whether they thought Cooper could have survived the jump from the rear door of a Boeing 727. He said 70 percent of those he checked believe the skyjacker could have survived frigid temperatures if he had served in the military as a parachutist, as Tosaw theorizes. 'He was in his early 40s at the time of the skyjacking, which means he would have been at the right age to be in the Korean War, possibly as a Green Beret,' Tosaw said. 'He learned his parachuting somewhere.' The attorney said his view of Cooper as a veteran was also based on the skyjacker's choice of parachutes airline officials provided. He said Cooper took a khaki-colored back chute rather than a 'more comfortable' white civilian chest chute he also was given. In addition, Tosaw said Cooper did not appear to be a 'loner' whose disappearance would not have been noticed. He said he thinks Cooper returned home after jettisoning the heavy money bag loose after landing in the river. 'He had a mother, father, girlfriend or wife who would have reported him missing otherwise,' Tosaw said. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram for more UPI news and photos.

It was at Bruce Smith's Mountain News posted by JAG ... word will get out! JAG says: January 3, 2025 at 5:02 pm dropzone is now skydiveforum: https://www.skydiveforum.com/forums/topic/56036-db-cooper/page/2564/ Reply brucesmith49 says: January 3, 2025 at 6:10 pm Good to know. Thanks

e My issue with Tosaw is the issue of "authenticity". He had no formal role or assignment in the Cooper case, just as in he had no formal assignment or role in Kinnick case, but that did not stop him from issuing 'press announcements' and making 'claims' that resulted in a 'issue' for all kinds of people to have to deal with. Having just announced his involvement in the Nile Kinnick case at Iowa City, he then calls the "Daily Iowan", a small inconspicuous university newspaper and announces to the world that he will now involve himself in the DB Cooper case - too! In other words, the Great Investigator "Tosaw" will now SOLVE the DB Cooper case too, his announcement immediately following the discovery of Cooper money at Tena Bar! People reading this at Iowa City laughed and wondered: What is this? Tosaw told the people working for him on the Columbia that he was FBI and being fed the latest information by ....................... the FBI and experts working on the case. Years later Tosaw has nothing to show for his efforts except for a book, and Nile Kinnick's plane is not raised ... and Tosaw's insistence that a piece of Kinnick's plane be mounted as a memorial to Nile Kinnick outside the front door of Kinnick Stadium does not happen in spite of Tosaw's insistence that 'he is expressing the wishes of the Nile Kinnick family! The whole thing is a little bit embarrassing ... thus I have to question Tosaw's authenticity and the accuracy of his information, as a general premise ? Tosaw did find Kinnick's plane in the ocean off Argentina using coordinates recorded in the ship's log, but he had nothing remotely similar (so far as anyone knows) in the Cooper case. Years later he jumped to announce Janet Wink's story even though that disagreed with his own previous 'estimates' about where Cooper had to have jumped sand landed. Time and circumstance has eroded chapters in the full Tosaw story.

Saw JAG's post with new url for this forum - glad it is back!! Thanks.....

Nobody is hideous here. Its just people working a very complicated problem with incomplete evidence. Its no wonder different people come out with different conclusions. That is expected! This has already come to be one of the very best discussions, ever to occur in any DB Cooper forum - ever. I hope you are all aware of that. Happy holidays to all and congratulations!

Dr. Edwards: A must read - D. B. Cooper and Flight 305: oscillations and pressure bump revisited

Without a doubt! He wanted the chutes back ... thats business/personal.

Early in this thread, someone maybe Bruce talked to Hadyen. Maybe its in an article by Bruce. But I distinctly remember Hayden saying 'if it werent for the FAA he wouldnt fly with chutes at all!'. The chutes were under his seat and in an emergency there wouldnt be time to get to chutes, in any event. So chutes were pointless'. He paid no attention to them and very well may not have even known what they were! ??? Maybe touch bases with Bruce on this. I seem to recall he knew Cossey had packed his chutes but beyond that he may not have known what his chutes were ? Most of Hayden's flying was aerobatic ?

Nice! .... its a long shot but who knows .... I hope some enterprizing person is reading this and follows up.

any photos ?

Does the chute found near Heisson in the South fork of the Lewis near the Heisson store, still exist? Presumably the FBI still has all of this evidence that could be reexamined ?