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She asked him why he picked Northwest Airlines to hijack and he laughed and said “It’s not because I have a grudge against your airlines (plural), it’s just because I have a grudge”. He paused and said ‘that the flight suited his time, place, and plans. (goes to Cooper's background) . He told (me) it was an electronic device and suggested the aircraft radio be used as little as possible. He then said ‘he didn’t think radio transmissions would bother it, but he wanted the crew warned’ . (goes to Cooper's specific background - very few people would even make this technical association - indicates specific technical background ... Cooper may have ordinance and ordinance arming training in his background.. miner/mining ? Check Duluth MN area ? ) In some venues phones are not allowed to be used around live ordinance ... Cooper may have been speaking from his background ? He says his bomb uses an "electronic" device... that is background and real world specific in his era.

nothing can be said - - - its truly defeating and pointless.

I know what he said! I can read... You would go further suggesting that Cooper misspoke, or said one thing but meant another, or whatever else you can conjure up. This is personal-political with you. I doubt anyone cares. I will sleep easy tonight knowing I'm right!

Minnesota "nice" is irrelevant. That's your invention and nothing more. The passage from the interview is: He asked her where she was from and she told him she was from Pennsylvania but was living in Minneapolis. He replied that ‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country’. The reference is places, not people! Tina and Cooper's exchange relates to places, not people. He said nothing about the people of Pennsylvania or‘Minneapolis, Minnesota. He specified 'country'. Country refers to land, water, sky, and geographical physical features. Moreover, you are far more interested in winning a political dispute you started, than truth. Damned near everything you say and do is "political"!

This is actually funny. I lived through this here in Ioway. Garrison Keillor and A Prairie Home Companion did character comedy on everyone and everything in the Midwest... in the 1980s. Minnesota Nice, Yupper 'yoops', Ioway ' corn heads', Wisconsin cheese heads, Boiled Fish Lunch ... etc. But all of that post dates the Cooper hijacking. In 1971 Keillor's antics and his public acclaim hadn't even happened yet - FJ is clearly reaching for validation. FJ needs to focus on what Cooper actually said. It's such a simple idea! No need for deep analysis or reinvention! FJ has a playbook he turns to when things dont go his way. Its funny. I enjoy it!

Well your dates are off! Your theory is nonsense. The phrase "Minnesota Nice" gained popularity in the mid-1980s, with its first documented appearance in a newspaper in 1986. It was further popularized by cultural figures like Garrison Keillor through works such as A Prairie Home Companion and Howard Mohr's 1987 book How to Talk Minnesotan. However, its origins are tied to the state's Scandinavian immigrant heritage and agrarian history, reflecting values of politeness, emotional restraint, and aversion to confrontation Meaning of "Minnesota Nice": The term describes a cultural stereotype of Minnesotans as polite, reserved, and mild-mannered. It encompasses behaviors such as friendliness, self-deprecation, and avoidance of direct conflict. While often seen as genuine kindness—helping neighbors or refraining from honking—it is also criticized for masking passive-aggression and emotional aloofness. Some view it as a facade rather than true niceness . Scandinavian influences emphasize humility and community over individualism, shaping this cultural norm. Minnesota Nice did not even exist for Cooper to use in 1971. It hadnt been invented and popularised yet to be in the pubic consciousness, for Cooper or anyone else to use! So your theory is nonsense. "Dan Cooper" was inspired by a comic book hero popular in Europe during the mid-20th century, which may explain its use as an alias but not as a common given name. Agent Carr has suggested that DB Cooper got his name from the comic book. You are beating a dead horse which has no factual reality ! Take your loss for once and drop this nonsense.

And neither do you!

Cooper did not say "Minnesota nice" ! Minnesota nice has nothing to do with anything. It is NOT what Cooper said and having to deal with it is a total waste of time ...

We know what conversational English means! Cooper seemed fluent in English whatever his background was. Everything is an assumption. People use languages to remove assumptions. By all accounts Cooper was fluent enough to convey what he meant vs. what you say he meant. People can conjure up all the things he might of meant or what you say he meant. Taken to its limit you are the only true interpreter of what DB Cooper meant and did. That could lead to you being the only person on Earth who can know who Cooper was, what he did and said, and why he hijacked at all. Please tell us!

Very simply, Cooper did not say "Minnesota nice". He said Minnesota is nice country, referring to its land, vista, territorial makeup . . . had he spent time in Minnesota or over it? Nice in contrast to what? Minnesota stands out because its water - lakes etc. Mexico by contrast has no water! ?

laughing .... Cooper's statement could have been 100% gratuitous. Just passing time and gas ....

The hijacker's choice of Cooper could be further evidence that DB Cooper had in fact, a Midwest connection. He told Tina that 'Minnesota is fine country' ? Or something to that affect. What is the basis for his comment, if any ?

There you go - - - - not your typical 'joe blow' from kokomoh but a mission-specific title. A stereotype with a whole set of specific traits and history. An archetype with specific special traits, skills, and history! Not your average guy. The hijacker knew what he was doing. No way he did not know what he was doing was special and would have historical consequence. He apparently chooses a name that has real social meaning .... by accident or otherwise. He did not walk up to the ticket agent and say: "I am General Eisenhower" but he might as well have. What's in a name ? Everything or nothing... Cooper family members took note if nobody else did, and asked: "what in hell is this!?"

Cooper means “barrel maker” and refers to those who made barrels, vats, casks, buckets, and other containers in Medieval England... name goes back in England to at least the 900s -1100s when people's names reflected what they did for a living. Many Indo European languages reflected what they did in life. The name Cooper has historical significance in early America and in Virginia specifically during the Revolutionary War. The Richards-Cooper name is almost synonymous with the the families who settled the first thirteen families (on Mandate from King George) in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia then rebelled against King George ... the socalled Fighting Quakers. There was a price on their heads! They defeated Lord Fairfax's troops in the Shenandoah Valley. The Cooper family has always distinguished itself as pioneers, developers, educators, innovators, etc. After the Revolutionary War, Johnathan Cooper of Star Tannery VA built wagons and moved families west to Ohio and then moved his family to the Ioway Territory c1830-40 ... Weinberg had something in mind when he chose the name Cooper for his heroic comic figure ??? Heroic figures that make special history ? The hijacker chose the name for some reason! That is almost guaranteed ... for some in some regions the name is historically associated with rebellion and noteworthy historical achievement. That's just a historical fact. Maybe Weinberg and Cooper knew something about American history ? Specifically Virginia and Midwest American history ?

Thanks!

OK, well I didnt read the context ......... crap! age catching up with me! Thanks FJ.. been a rough week ....... all the other excuses! ..............

None of the participants had your view! I can guarantee that. The whole reason for the test was to try to duplicate and clarify what the 305 crew experienced during the time period Cooper may have jumped in. Basic science. All of the participants were experts in their fields! The test can hardly be dismissed as a 'cursory investigation' - of all of the participants! The idea that Cooper walked out on the stairs, tested the stairs, and finally jumped without leaving any telltale sign, is impossible. Anyone claiming that might as well claim intervention by the HolyTrinity! In fact, the test revealed information which very likely has still not been fully articulated, by socalled researchers. Hominid and I batted that back and forth with Hom being an articulate source of raising new questions no forum was debating .... this is just one of the reasons why Hominid was such a treasure! I think Hominid would be smiling and laughing just treading your comments! Sending out a few provocative emails to peoples late boxes!

And, at least you two are still talking. As things go in the Vortex, that is a win@!

Eric was probably right to try and narrow in on a suspect based on rare particles. That assumes Cooper and the particles and some business or environment connect, which may or may not be true. The tie may have even been a plant to throw investigators off. That approach by its nature is a last resort! Normally other evidence and other methods would be used People have been chasing their tails with this case since it happened. My personal bias is Mr. Cooper was probably some ordinary guy somewhere who decided to act on a grudge or something who was in need of money so he hatched a hijacking plan, and it worked! He was careful to leave little evidence. The FBI botched the evidence it had and so, everyone is here today trying to piece something back together on the faint hope that will work ...

I dont think Ive ever seen a 'problem' that seems to generate so many unorthodox solutions-machinations and exceptions/screwups! For example, God forbid that the Tena Bar money is due to something ordinary or predictable! It had to be due to something special, unusual, or even exceptional ........... something only a person like EU could stumble on or decipher. Or mind melding and metaphysics. Things beyond ordinary psychology and reality. God forbid Cooper was relaxing somewhere two months after the hijacking thinking to himself: 'God that was easy! I got away with it! I think I'm free. Those people are going to be chasing their tails for the next 100 years'.

The 'problem' is No Evidence. No finger prints, no dna, no anything. Just people's statements about descriptions and artist profiles of people's contradicting descriptions followed by people's arguments about descriptions. People cant even agree on where Cooper jumped! Its the same as trying to dig a hole with no tools. Or where to even put the hole! That will go on forever or until people wear out and move on ... the lack of hard evidence has been decisive in this case. Then Tom Kaye jumps in and gives us 200,000,000 particles to think about! The Cooper Case is in gridlock unable to move.

The HIrisPlex-S DNA test system is capable of simultaneously predicting eye, hair and skin color phenotypes from DNA. What we do know from Cooper's own lips, is that he was a traveler. He had been in the Midwest and Minnesota specifically. He said he wasnt taking the plane to Cuba. At one point he said the plane could not land anywhere in the USA. He specified going to Mexico City! He had social awareness of the world situation at the time. He wanted out of the grasp of law enforcement but then he bails just north of Portland. He is on the run to something ... above all he does not want to be apprehended and linked to a hijacking. The money makes him highly vulnerable ... nothing in his reported grammar suggests a Spanish speaker! Its an interesting combination of traits and history ...

Thats an interesting point! ( The PNW in November is NOT a sunny environment which indicates that Cooper being dark/olive was likely NOT from the PNW.) so is his encounter with a flight 305 a chance event? He is passing through the area ?

and he has been watching/monitoring from some place for: the right plane in the right place at the right time - his words. Plane cant land anywhere in the USA! (his words). Nothing so far about the FBI targeting-questioning Spanish populations ... anywhere? The FBI uses "Latin" in its descriptions but doesnt seem to target Latins for inspection. Who were the Latin populations in and around Portland at the time ? Or Seattle ? Latins that worked with ordinance and rare metals ? ... someone totally off the radar! A loner. Someone the FBI would dismiss because he doesnt fit their preconceived profile. Someone off the grid ?

I love your tenacity!