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^^^^This, what RiggerBob said. For what it takes in time and cost involved in having a rigger manufacture a set from scratch, you can a line set from the manufacturer and have your rigger install it and be more certain it is within the manufacturers specifications.

Check out the "container volume chart " on the side of this page: http://www.rigginginnovations.com/Pages/Containers/VoodooCurv.aspx It will give you some insight on what fits in different size Curves.

Gio, you da man!

Sparky, First, the AC that you quoted is no longer active. Second, ACs are not regulatory. Third, the manufacturer's instruction quote "recommended" tools, not "required" tools and as you well know is a major difference in regulatory language. Forth, the canopy manufacturer's are pretty vivid in their instructions on not to use clamps. See below From Fight Concepts Reserve manual: 7 INSPECTION INSTRUCTIONS NOTE: THE INSPECTION OF A FLIGHT CONCEPTS INTERNATIONAL, INC. RESERVE CANOPY PRIOR TO BEING ASSEMBLED INTO A PARACHUTE HARNESS/CONTAINER SYSTEM, OR DURING THE REPACK CYCLE CAN ONLY BE DONE BY THE MANUFACTURER OR AN FAA CERTIFIED SENIOR OR MASTER PARACHUTE RIGGER. ADDITIONALLY, TO INSURE THE CORRECTNESS OF THE INSPECTION PROCEDURE, THESE INSPECTION INSTRUCTIONS MUST BE FOLLOWED EXACTLY. DO NOT USE ANY TYPE OF CLAMPS TO TEST, PACK OR MAINTAIN THIS PARACHUTE SYSTEM. PLACING CLAMPS ON PARACHUTES IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PARACHUTE FABRIC. THE ACCEPTABLE PRACTICE FOR TESTING FABRIC IS THE THUMB TEST. THIS TEST CAN ALSO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY GRASPING THE FABRIC IN EACH HAND AND SNAPPING OR POPPING THE FABRIC VIGOROUSLY. http://flightconceptsint.com/forms/reserve2006.pdf Also the part about voiding the TSO is written into their ACO manual and can be confirmed by calling Flight Concepts. Lastly, it is just a trend to use clamps and absolutely not necessary to use use them to achieve a good pack job. BS, MEL This is the response I was looking for. I don't need someone to tell me "if you use clamps, it voids the TSO." I want to see where it tells me this. I work for the military as a rigger and everything I do because I work for the military has to be on point. When I have to research something to answer a question, sometimes they don't want to just hear it out of my mouth, they want a tangible instruction or AC to back up my answer. There is a plethora of knowledge on this forum that I use regularly and when I don't understand something I ask. Thanks to everyone on this thread, the OP may or may not be getting his rigger certificate, I would just like him to be well informed of all the facts. Not just "hip pocket" trained.

So, it says "recommended" tool list, we could split hairs all day on what to use and not to use. Crap, the photo shows 5 clamps and the list directly above it says 4. The T-handle issue is mentioned in several manuals other than the Talon 2, and says that if it is used, to use it with caution, excess forces, etc. Verbage in manuals from civilian manufacturers to military systems leaves a lot to be desired and varies greatly from one version to the next and leaves a lot of room for interpretation. And again, voiding a TSO, where does it say this? The reference used earlier didn't say it voided the TSO, just that it is not to be done.

Thanks Mel… Although, After breifly reading one of the reserve manuals from Flight Concepts, it states: DO NOT USE ANY TYPE OF CLAMPS TO TEST, PACK OR MAINTAIN THIS PARACHUTE SYSTEM. PLACING CLAMPS ON PARACHUTES IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE PARACHUTE FABRIC. I agree that clamps "could" be detrimental, but nowhere does it state it voids the TSO. I would like to learn more about this, if in fact i does void a TSO on Flight Concepts reserves and other manufacturers that have made the same statement. I will continue to not use clamps, one less thing I have to account for after packing.

Could you explain this a little further? I don't personally use them, but I do know some riggers that do and never heard of them "voiding" a TSO.

Whatever it does, I'm excited to see how it all turns out.

Sew a sample with it, see what it does and then see what the adjustment does. Camatron does specialty conversions for a production type environment. It may do a zig zag on part of the cam, then a straight stich, then zig zag, repeating over and over for what ever application it was intended for...Just go for it and tell us what it does.

I used to work at AS as a rigger. I forwarded this thread to someone I know there. Hope it helps.

Did you get my Text message Dave? Still waiting to hear from my buddy. He is on vacation now. Hit me up on the FaceBook messenger...

At a minimum you will need a screwdriver to loosen the screws.

Blue skies John.

As a rigger, I would not reclose it after you opened it at home. I would install your cypres, and repack your reserve as if you needed a 180 day inspect and repack. I would mark the canopy as repack, not as an activation.

I would also like an answer to this as well. All I can see is someone (rigger or not) opening a reserve container for whatever reason and re closing it. Now my name is on the log record as the last rigger to pack it with no ramifications to the person who opened it.

When you say "1 little cell more in one side", do you mean the ripstop squares at the line attachment? These squares are geneally 1/8th of an inch. I would be more inclined to say position in the harness caused his "slight turn in full speed." I would contact Precision-Aero for line length tolerance for trimming this canopy. My 2 cents.

Here is a newer version dated July 2012: http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/airmen/test_standards/media/FAA-S-8081-25B.pdf

I had heard that, but only took it witha grain of salt. There was also an guy there that married, divorced, married again and divorced again the same woman. Must of been something in the water in the mountians of western NC...

Okay...a little of my background with SEI. I worked at SEI in Asheville,NC from 2000-2003. I worked with 3 designers and several individuals who jumped and did R&D with the P3 prior to my arrival there. At the time, SEI was not owned by anyone else. It was purchased by Simula while I was there. Simula opted to close the Asheville site in 2003 and moved it to Apache Junction, AZ. I still keep in touch with several of the navy test jumpers that jumped, Gabbard, Mark Esposito and Howie Tomlinson. Tomlinson still works at China Lake with the 2 vacuum sealed systems the Navy developed with the company I worked for. I never made a trip to do the test drops, that was prior to me arriving. I assembled, packed, vacuumed sealed, and closed the systems before shipping to the navy. I just wanted to add a little bit more of the history of the Durachute, not to stir up any animosity.

It was originally developed out of a company in Asheville NC, SEI or Safety Equipment International. I worked there directly with the Navy test jumpers and Engineers out of China Lake, CA to develop the packing and sealing processes of the P3 and E2C parachutes. The Navy has since taken control of all the drawings, which is why SEI, bought and moved to Phoenix, renamed Simula, then bought by Armor Holdings, then finally sold to BAE Systems no longer manufacture them. They called it the Durachute and did not have much demand for their civilian version. And yes, it had a Five year repack cycle due to the vacuum sealing process.

Ask your tax preparer. We are going to purchase a house in the coming months as well. You can file an amendment for your 2008 taxes and get it sooner, or file it along with your '09 taxes and get it then. But remember, you have to have purchased it by December 1st of this year to qualify.

Try this for a little more information: http://www.airborne-sys.com/pdfs/ATPS%20(8.07).pdf

I'm new to the site, but here is some more good information from the FAA: http://www.faa.gov/education_research/testing/airmen/test_guides/media/FAA-G-8082-15C.pdf