fly-by69

what alcoholic, rigger or skydiver isnt holier than thou? why is "drunken rigger" exceptable when your talking shit on the internet but youd all burn em at the stake if the incident report stated it was so? pissed at me for asking yourself that question?

"Really GOOD, KNOWLEDGEABLE riggers are hard to find....drunk or sober." gonna call bullshit on that one.you aren't looking hard enough. i am not asking what i should do. i am asking what everyone chooses to do and why? not a surprise to me that a sport riddled with junkies and drunks would defend "our own". realize how stupid your arguements that its ok to be a drunken rigger are sounding? anyone???

thank you. i started this with some dipshit attitude for shock value, but id like some serious replies. told several friends that theyd be better off going to so & so but they shrug it off. guess i just dont get that reasoning. one can never really know if they are pilled up or whatever, but when its blatantly obvious that they are a drunk why even go down that path? Most I know are being faithful to their org. rigger....who might have been great but shit takes its toll. some of those i used to swear by i'd no longer let even pack my main. sad to say Did enjoy the reply about the shakes & sweat...funny!

never said it surprised me. all the cases of beer and swoop and chugs. its a culture built upon addictions and a sport that is one. im well aware of that just curious who does what when it comes to getting their gear serviced, simple. Ii asked because the majority of jumpers I know give their gear very willingly to someone they know will be messed up while servicing it simply because they are good friends. why wouldnt you take your "last chance" to someone you know will do their best? which i consider sober. friend or not. i wont pack my own main after one beer. i find it a valid question if i knowingly give my reserve to a rigger i know is gonna be shitfaced by 2:30 pm and i go in from something they messed up...i'll be dead. but in that chain of events thats where i screwed up. cant prove it in most cases and this wasnt a post to bring up names, bad blood, or hurt feelings. so, no, i wont. but if we should all know our gear and be responsible for our gear.....wouldnt that be part of it? i wouldnt blame the drunk rigger. id blame the deceased for not making a wiser decision.

you know more than most as educated as you are what mistakes riggers have made. you also know most riggers are not subject to drug testing while working as part of their terms of employment. As i said im not trying to get anyone in trouble. there IS something wrong with being under the influence while servicing someone elses gear...and for money. well known "crazy things riggers have done" such as: leaving molar straps in, not having a rapide link screwed, hooking a reserve up sideways, etc. are more likely to happen under the influence. all happened by human error, so why add drugs and alcohol to that? and human error can include being under the influence, proven or not.

taking your bait: "And gee whiz, many of you wouldn't have survived the 70s when everyone was doing heroin, the 80s when everyone was smoking pot, or the 90s when everyone was snorting coke." many many didn't survive "And all through that time I've never heard of a case where a "flying" rigger killed someone . . ." where the fuck have you been? where would you like me to start with the crazy shit riggers have done wrong? recently too. maybe it was under some influence.....who knows. people have died from fucked up reserves. It aint cool to drive drunk when you can kill someone else. it s not just yourself in danger. Iits not cool to pack someones reserve drunk because you might kill them. i drink with the best of them so i aint no saint its my job to pack reserves sober & other riggers to be sober...its our fucking responsibility to each other as friends if anything and mods on gear too so you and your drunk rigging buddies are better than alcohol, heroine, pot, coke, and,meth cuz you beat the odds? you got away without killing your friends, or maybe you didn't because you were all too fucked up to know you screwd up, nice. I must be drunk since I'm not skydiving

keeping your pencil nice and sharp?

Question?: do you let them pack your reserve or mod. your gear? drunks don't stop drinking for SHIT!!! not their kids not to drive & not to repack a reserve... when it's drinkin time, it's fucking drinkin time. nope, don't give two fucks what you care about my profile not interested in getting folks in trouble. you guys got nothing better to do...lets hear it you know them... no not looking for names. "Just cause I fucked you last nite, must mean I'm too hungover to pack your reserve today!!" Flame away...