IronMike

And the sad, inevitable transformation from subject legtimacy to unbridled ballyhoo begins. Get your padlocks ready.

I like my coffee like I like my women.... Bitter

How do you REALLY feel? I'm 100% with you, however. I would like to be the one that defines "cruel and unusual". This guy wouldn't like my interpritation.

Tough questions too...I think we need to bring human judgement into this, not Spock logic. We all know damn well what this guy was up to...His statements are going to sink him. This is the same as some guy trying to pay an undercover cop to take out his wife. Those convictions stand and it is not considered entrapment. If he initaiated contact on the internet, kept persuing her after he knew she was 13 then drove 1500 miles, I think we can safely and JUSTLY presume he would have molested her.

He drove 1500 miles...Hardly entrapment...I bet the DA did that on purpose...made him drive that is....very smart....

Damn Paul, you are one smart mofo.

He didn't actually do anything....Don't get me wrong, I would shoot him myself given the chance, but we run into entrapment issues....How bad should his punishment be? I would say there is a good chance he would have killed a real girl, given the gun.... Can we punish people for what we think they are going to do???? I guess so...Iraq looks like it will be the precident.

Is that according to Arthur Anderson?

Do tell, The term I heard about him was "Hung like a Ken Doll".

Prision, Castaraton, Death????? They have video on the website of this guy in action. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA030103SuspectedPredatorArrested.html — Jerry McClain, a 65-year-old Texas man, drove more than 1,500 miles in a car packed with sex toys to meet a 13-year-old girl he found on the Internet. Instead, he met the undercover police officer he'd been chatting with for weeks. As he walked toward a Turlock, Calif., Burger King where he had arranged to meet 13-year-old "Christine" on Dec. 18, McClain instead met two police officers, who tackled him. The entire incident was captured on video by ABCNEWS. Detective Ken Hedrick, a Stanislaus County, Calif., Sheriff's Department officer, had pretended to be Christine while he set up a sting operation to nab McClain. Hedrick said it wasn't long before the senior citizen began e-mailing "Christine" intimate questions. ‘I Told Him I Was 13’ "One of the first things he asked me was how old I was," Hedrick said. "I told him I was 13. He began asking me questions of what type of sexual experiences I have had, if I was interested in older men." Hedrick is just one of the law enforcement officers in Stanislaus County's high-tech crime unit, a task force on the front lines in the battle to protect children from Internet predators. Detective Lydell Wall, who works with Hedrick, said their unit has become very necessary since parents are often unaware of what their kids are doing online "We would no more leave our children at home alone unattended with the doors unlocked, but parents do it everyday by allowing their children to go online unsupervised behind a closed door," Wall said. Hedrick said online predators like McClain count on parents who don't monitor their children's Internet use. McClain's contact with "Christine" moved from cyberspace to talking on the telephone. "He [McClain] wanted me to have cybersex," Hedrick said. "After a while, we had some phone conversations." With the help of a voice transformer, Hedrick was able to make McClain think he was really talking to a 13-year-old girl. One of their conversations went as follows: Hedrick as "Christine": "Hello." McClain: "You know what?" Hedrick: "What?" McClain: "I love you." Christine: "I love you, too." McClain: "You sound real nice, you know that?" Christine: "Thank you." McClain: "What are you wearing?" Christine: "Jeans." Detailed Sex Acts Hedrick said McClain described in detail the sex acts they would have once they met. Hedrick also said McClain revealed during a phone conversation that he planned on taking "Christine" back to Texas with him: McClain: "If you decide you want to come with me that day." Hedrick: "I do." McClain: "We'll leave Friday … after we mess around with each other for a while." On the day Hedrick was scheduled to meet McClain at the Burger King in Turlock, Calif., a petite female police officer posed as Christine. When McClain arrived at the location, the female officer walked inside the Burger King and he followed. That's when police moved in. Police said they found a gun, hair dye, girls' clothing and sex toys in the vehicle McClain used to drive to the meeting place. The clothes included a shirt with the word "Precious" airbrushed across the top. Police said McClain referred to Christine as "Precious." "If this had been a real child looking for that kind of attention, he easily could have met that child, picked up that child and taken that child back to Texas with him," said Sgt. Adam Christianson of the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department. Wall said parents need to understand that their children are curious and naïve. "They can be lured into these chat room areas and they can be invited there by sexual predators," Wall said. McClain was arrested on four felony counts, while police back in Texas reported finding child pornography in the man's Kerrville home. Kerrville police Lt. Joe Lanning said his officers searched McClain's home about the time of his arrest in California. Police in Texas had been working with the California detectives since November on the case. McClain pleaded not guilty to all the charges against him and he remains in jail in lieu of $255,000 bail. He's due in court Jan. 13 and could face up to 13 years in prison if he is found guilty. Christianson said McClain's arrest should serve as a warning to those who prey use the Internet to prey on kids. "You ought to think twice before interacting with children and entering into this kind of behavior," Christianson said. "It could be a police officer you are talking to, and we are going to arrest you."

It's OK everybody...calm down....Erno is Mexican from the waist down.

Im keeping the Caddy to retain some semblance of manly hood, or geriatrics.

Actually, It was a Hawker Sea Fury. I was there that year. I have never seen a more bizzare accident. I was taking off with 2 other T6's and we saw it and just thought he was going to be pissed. We dint find out the tragedy until we got back to Memphis. He is probably most famous for the Red Devils/Eagles team with Gene Soucy and Tom Poberezny. Anyone remember when they chained the Eagles together, took off, flew a routine, and landed with them still chained? He owned quite a few auto dealerships in Ft Worth too that his widow now runs.

I don't trust anything that bleeds for 3 days and doesn't die.

Chris Farley & Davis Spade - Tommy Boy

The freight train/ Metrolink accident in Fullerton,CA last year is rumored to cost 300 million....Quite a big hunk out of the bottom line and we are self-insured.

Not available yet and while I think it would be cool, the Auto is ultra smooth and I can't smoke crack and shift at the same time. Mike

Yeah but can you cause a train wreck?? A REAL train wreck? Seriously, I take my job very seriously. Im like Jeckyl and Hyde (Not Robin). Im Mr. Serious at work and a looney away from it. We are talking lives, not locked up PC's. Mike Mike

Oh, by the way....Im getting a 2003 Accord EX V6 with GPS. Silver on black leather. The insurance on the Mustang wass 3200 a year compared to 900 on the Accord. Plus, when I climed into ine with the GPS, it looks sooo cool. I love gadgets more than HP. Mike

If you know me, it would scare the hell out of you how much responsibility I have...... Mike Oh, I beg to differ....Im completly nuts...Perris people, back me on this one.... Mike

He must have lost his camera and is starting the slow, downward spiral of insanity.

I have a pretty cush office job. I live 2 miles from it, work 12 hour days, 3 days a week. 6 weeks vacation with only 5 yrs with the Company. High School degree only. I don't pay Social Security and have a great pension and matching 401K. Pretty unbelievable salary considering my qualifications. They also gave all of us 80 grand in moving money to move to CA when they opened this office and paid for everything on top of that, including all closing costs and realtors fees. I tell about 100 people what to do and when all day long. I get 400 emails and 200 calls a day. If you know me, it would scare the hell out of you how much responsibility I have...... Mike

Thats because you have your distributor set on 1.21 jigawatts! You need to replace the flux capacitor. Mike

No matter the outcome, getting sued will ruin the average Joe...My Godfather lost everything defending himself against Indecency With a Child charges that were, and proven, to be completely fabricated by a woman in his church that had done it 3 times in the past to other people. Even though his name was cleared, the defense cost him several hundred thousand dollars, wrecked his marriage and made him into a recluse. It should be a major felony to file a frivelous lawsuit.

I don't see this often...What is strange...Nobody out here has radar detectors....I have one hard mounted in my car...CA Natives hear it beep and have no idea what it is....It saved me about once a week in TX and once in 3 years in CA. I don't really need it out here except the drive to Vegas. Mike