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I agree... In DSE's statement he says, "The relative worker who was nearly hit had no idea another person was that close until he heard a canopy opening just below and to his side." I know the camera guy was in the wrong. All I'm saying is regardless of being high, low or otherwise every jumper should be as aware of their own airspace as possible at pull time. I did say that the high guy may want to consider a quick pitch, I see the flaws in that statement... and agree with you that it would be better to track for separation. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Awesome!! Thank you for the info. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

As opposed to the left direction.. I promise to abide by all dz rules and regulations, and will be on my best behavior. Just out of curiosity... what kind of reserves do the rental rigs have there? *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

I'd love to be able to meet some people out there for some fun jumps... I'm going to be out there for a wedding (which I am a part of) and I was recently told by the bride that the only chance I will get to skydive is if it's out of the plane on the way out there from Denver.. Let's just say, there are more important things than Sunday brunch.. Do you actually fly to 14k as the website claims? How long will it take me to get there from Ann Arbor? *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

I did what I felt was right at the time... and explain my thought process in that thread. I'm happy to go back there and continue to discuss it. As long as you or anyone else reads through the entire thread first so it's not a cut and paste discussion.. So I've been told... but no one has managed to tell me why. In fact, the responses I've got are essentially, 'Wow did you just ask that... you need to stop jumping now.' and 'you don't know what you don't even know, and ' You've made a very flawed statement about "clearing airspace." (Wow! again). Pretty much makes my point about how you guys always have the "right" answers. Save your words for your own mouth. I have stood my ground on some issues and admitted defeat on others... but what ever makes you feel better about your 'constructive criticism'. I'm always happy to learn... whether it's from you, my dz instructors, my friends, a noob fresh off AFF, it doesn't matter, any experience level can have something valuable to add. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

That is BAD!!!!! I can see where that would be more likely to happen with an actual camera flier working tandem vids than an avg fun jumper. I have seen the camera fliers at my dz get really busy and they are literally landing, grabbing a packed rig out of the trailer, and jumping right on the next load. Sometimes the TI may even be holding a rig for them in the plane. Point is some of them are used to climbing into the plane without their rig already on their back. If a fun jumper is so easily distracted by something like a GoPro as to do the same thing they should absolutely never jump with one again. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

You might not be leaving enough length of line between your last stow and the risers...? Initially bringing them up and together on deployment (like a pyramid over your head) slapping the side of your neck. Which side of the d-bag is your last stow on??? Your sig line disclaimer does seem to be true. Oh... there's no doubt about it... *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Yeah... your absolutely right, that you can't be right. If you disagree with up number jumpers some of them are quick to just insult you, usually by calling you a 'SkyGod' with 'MadSkillz' and telling you that you think you are hot shit, have a bad attitude and don't want to learn etc... it is just their MO. All reasonable debate is usually out the door at that point because the other up jumpers that also think and respond that way will jump in and confirm that you are all of those things, and my favorite, tell you that, "you don't even know what you don't know." When people jump to insults it's because they don't have anything better to say. Just look back on this and any other thread and see who these guys are... it's usually the same ones. Twardo may get a pass cause he has some of the best stories I've read, never met him but he reminds me of those 'Dos Equis most interesting guy' commercials. Not to mention... he is crusty old, and may or may not have dementia... *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Live and let live... To criticize and judge another man for his own beliefs whether right or wrong does not make either man right or wrong... it just makes one of them less of a man. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Read Lee Iacocca's autobiography... I found it pretty motivational. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Yep I saw that coming... you asked me a set of basic questions, that I gave basic and reasonable answers to and that is your response. I will be the first to admit that I like to debate these issues with you guys because I do learn more, and I guess I manage to push some buttons along the way... but when it comes to how highly I think of my self and skydiving, I'm no "better" than the guy or girl doing their first solo jump off AFF. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Did you really just write that? You need to stop jumping. Now. Why is that so off the wall? Just cause your jumping solo you don't need to check your airspace before pulling? Guess there wouldn't be much point in waving off either.. ETA: I realize the the RW guy wasn't jumping solo (unless he was doing solo RW ), but I still maintain he should be aware of his own airspace before pulling. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

I would say that is much harder than you would think. I had a jump a few weeks ago where i was going to video two people doing RW. On the jumprun the tandem decided to exit before us, and that suprised us alot. Because of i knew we had tandem below us i held my head in the direction where the RW was going on and i scaned for the tandem with my eyes, it took me quite some time to find the tandem. And keep in mind, a tandem is much easier to find than a normal jumper because of the drouge. Unless you have keept your eyes on the previous group all the time during your jump, i would say its luck if you find them 1. Obviously that jump order was f'd up by either you guys or the tandem, automatically making that a unique scenario. If that had happened to me then I would have probably changed my dive to a tracking dive or at least would have done a higher pull than normal, assuming I/we were in the last group out. In addition I would have provided a lot of separation time. 2. I said I 'scan' my airspace... I didn't say I look for every group or jumper that was out before me, that would be ridiculous. ETA: I wasn't there for your situation so I'm not saying I think you guys did any thing wrong or unsafe. Didn't mean to be a dick head.

Not a remotely accurate assumption. Merely evidence that you have no clue what you have no idea about.... If he's at 3K and worried that the other jumper will collide with him then he may want to use the next 5 sec or 1K to get some distance from the potential collision. Especially if that other jumper is directly above. In this particular situation you mentioned you said the other jumper was below. In which case he may want to pull immediately to avoid falling into the low guy who may deploy without paying further attention. I usually do a 'scan' of my airspace before pulling, probably even more so if I'm jumping solo, as I likely have more time since I'm not busy tracking away from other jumpers I know are there. Yes, if he hasn't already pulled and collision is imminent. Which ever way will give him the quickest/greatest separation. Doesn't mean low man shouldn't check his airspace before pulling. No first stick out is not responsible for the following exit separation, but he/she should be conscious that it's not always followed to a 't' unfortunately, and may still want to be aware of their own airspace as best as possible. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

I've had one cutaway, not heavily loaded but over 1:1 and it was a hard spinning mal. I used two hands and had an easy pull of the cutaway handle. I didn't pull my reserve handle. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

That is exactly what was implied in that statement. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Sounds like all 3 of you were jumping solo but somehow in proximity of each other??? Maybe you guys need to work on your exit separation. ETA: also, by your report it sounds like the RW guy also didn't thoroughly check his airspace before pulling. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

+1 A lot of people want to have some video. It's smaller and lighter than just about any other set up, therefore less likely to cause trouble. I wish I had one when I had 200 jumps. I really haven't heard of any incidents of the GoPro causing accidents, but maybe someone has some incidents they could share. Just ask the OP. A-hole nah just kidding. Here is the link to the thread. The GoPro was not the cause for the incident but did change my reaction to it. You'll find that it was pretty thoroughly discussed but I don't mind starting it back up in that thread. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Do you often deploy on headup or how else is that possible? My lines usually unstow bottom first. Yeah but the lines are connected to the risers which come over the shoulders. I think the 'slapping' would be more likely from a single line twist etc... that the OP is spinning out of before he even knew it was there. Here is a pic of me with a single line twist, that I just spun right out of.. But it did cause both risers to slap the back of my neck and helmet. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

You might not be leaving enough length of line between your last stow and the risers...? Initially bringing them up and together on deployment (like a pyramid over your head) slapping the side of your neck. Which side of the d-bag is your last stow on??? *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

So do some of the chicks at my dz.. My ex-girlfriend wanted one, and I said, 'When they make a canopy that feels like a naked woman when you lay on it I'll get you a self packing parachute.' Anyway, I think she probably has one now. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

It would if Twardo wouldn't have f'd the whole post. I like Andy's thin mints... and the the first 4 letters of my last name are: Ande *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----

Dude this is what I think about that. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.----