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Here it is! I guess they changed the logo to a white man...my bad. It's still funny, though. http://www.sinosplice.com/weblog/archives/001456.php _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Heh...your story reminds me of when I used to visit my family in Thailand as a kid--there was a toothpaste there called "DARKIE." Their logo was a black man in a top hat with a big, white toothy grin. The last time I visited (almost 10 years ago), they had changed the name to "DARLIE" but kept the logo! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

I'm not really mainstream, either...heck, look at my sig line. Does anybody (besides skymedic) know who XTC is anymore?? Anyway, if Bo wins, I'd consider buying his album because I really like what I've heard and seen so far. Just because the album will be packaged and sold by American Idol doesn't necessarily mean it's automatically crap. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Yup, that's what I'm ready for. This is the first time I've actually been interested in possibly buying the American Idol album. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Uh yeah, it is too hard to do when it's painful and difficult to read your posts because of poor spelling, grammar, punctuation and sentence structure. Putting spaces after periods and commas can't be too hard to do, either. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Yah, Bo rocks! I LOVED that a cappella gospel thing he did this week. You're right about Carrie not having the stage presence/personality, and I hate pop country music. That's okay, I'm sure she'll get a record deal from some Nashville producer, anyway. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

There are a few mentions in the "Most famous skydiver..." thread. However most of the answers are about skydivers who made themselves famous because of their great achievements in the sport. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Is it really the same, though? I understand how it's still better than just fruit juice because the fiber is still in the mixture. But when you eat whole, fresh fruit, there are bigger chunks of fiber that your body has to break down to get to the sugars. With purees, most of the physical breaking down of the food (chewing and churning) has been taken care of by a blender... I dunno...just my understanding.

Well, I just did what I said I was going to do -- I left work at about 4:57pm and got to my front door at 5:47pm. I walked 2.9 miles in 50 minutes. That's a little under 3.5mph. But I guess the 300+ calories I burned don't count because I wasn't really exerting myself at that pace. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Um, 3mph for 1 hour...burns approximately 360 calories if you weigh 200lbs. That's not bad. If overweight people are doing that in addition to reducing daily caloric intake, they can lose a lot of weight at a healthy rate. Who cares if they're watching TV or reading while they're exercising? At least they're exercising. I'm planning on walking home from work today. It's about 3 miles, and I walk at a low-medium brisk rate. I'm not sure what the exact speed is, but it probably varies between 3-4.5mph. My heart rate always gets above 80 at that pace. I'm not horribly out of shape, either. I've been doing about 20-30 minutes of cardio every other day in addition to weight training. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Not sure about Wisconsin, but one of my friends just did a balloon ride with Blue Sky Balloon Rides up in McHenry, IL. And she was engaged by the end of it! Hehe. Here's a listing of some hot air balloon companies in Wisconsin: http://www.hotairballoons.com/hot_air_balloon_ride_Wisconsin.asp _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

It's funny, because when AndyMan and I watch the show every week we say to each other, "I'm glad we're not like that." Sooo, I don’t think any of the given choices apply to me. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Happy Birthday, Robyn! Have you gotten yer birthday spankin' from Kennedy, yet?? _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Yup, it is a nasty habit--you've done it yourself. It's a nasty habit to apply what you think of skinning and gutting LIVE people to skinning and gutting DEAD people. The standards of what you think of LIVE people do not apply to DEAD people. You have been applying standards for LIVING people to DEAD people. No, I can't guarantee or be sure of any of that. Neither can you. However, most of us in this discussion have seen people's reactions to the exhibit firsthand, whereas you have not. What have you seen firsthand and learned from the people who went to the exhibition? We already covered all of this. Why don't you go back and read the text that you can't follow? I said you COULD condemn it. You can say anything you want, and so can I. However, you seem to ignore this idea every time. I'm merely asking you for an INFORMED opinion, which you don't seem to be capable of forming since you think everyone else's opinions are irrelevant: What a great way to respect somebody's culture. Essentially you're saying, "Your opinion doesn't matter! Your culture is WRONG! WE have the RIGHT way, and YOU should follow it!" God forbid that she had something insightful to say about the subject, but I guess that doesn't matter to you since you've already deemed her opinion and thoughts as unimportant. You cannot say for sure what the actual thoughts and feelings of the Body Worlds visitors were thinking. You're ASSUMING and IMAGINING BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS what EVERY VISITOR to the exhibition is thinking. That's a pretty broad paintbrush you've got there. Could you lend it to me so that I can paint one wall of my house in one stroke? I'm still not going to take you very seriously if you're just going to spout off emotional opinions with no credible knowledge to back it up. You said yourself...an opinion without knowledge, that is, an UNINFORMED opinion is of little value. No, I didn't negate that. I said you could predict to some degree of accuracy, but you're never going to know 100% unless you experience it for yourself. Yes, we were. It started with appreciation, then you brought up assigning value to it. Then it progressed into your poor examples, and I clarified for you that there is a difference between appreciation and criticism. Go back and read. Why would you want to track my influences? Why does it matter? What does my past really have to do with this discussion? You said yourself, "This ain’t no disfunctioning couples therapy session." Asking if I'm ashamed is in itself an assumption. When you're pondering about my thoughts and behaviors regarding my lovers, that is also an assumption. You're trying (whether you mean to or not) to make it personal--trying to provoke me on a personal level instead of addressing the actual issues at hand. It's trolling behavior. All I have attacked are your arguments. I haven't made any mention of your personal life, imagined or assumed anything about you. All of my comments are based on what you've written here. Your analogies have very little to do with the actual discussion, therefore, to this discussion, they are drivel and dross. Analogies are a copout and merely a very convenient way to illustrate your (weak) point and detract attention from the actual topic being discussed. In your case, I don't think you've even illustrated your point very well because you've thrown in all of these other topics and avoided addressing the actual issue. A MATURE person would gather as much information as possible from as many sides as possible and then form his/her OWN INFORMED opinion. An opinion formed and based on little fact is of little value. Hm, thinking for yourself, I see. Oh, wait...no, you're only parroting what you read in a news article and not bothering to research that or consult any other sources. Why not do further research since this is relevant to the discussion? I don't really care, nor am I going to imagine or assume anything about it. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

I pretty much knew the first night that I met him. Here's my version of our story: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=312185#312185 We got married a little over a year after we first met.

Ooh, Nick...I LOVE your French accent! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Yup, do a search. But I'll tell you my story anyway, too. Here's my shoulder history: Sept. 29, 2002 - Nearly perfect skydive on my AFF Level 3. Came into land, flared, and my right shoulder popped right out with my arms down to my crotch at full extension. Could've stood up the landing if it hadn't been for the excruciating pain and the big fat student canopy dragging me back in 15-16mph winds. I did not fall and reach out my arm to try and catch myself. May 16, 2004 - Flying a similar student canopy, came into land, started the flare too low, buried the toggles and my shoulder came out again. Exact same motion as the first dislocation. Proceeded to cry, not because of the pain, but because I knew I'd be out for the whole season. June 2004 - Started 6-8 weeks of physical therapy. Didn't help with much except for getting me stronger before I decided to go with surgery. If my sport of choice were competitive knitting, I wouldn't have needed surgery. But dammit, I want to skydive without having the fear of my shoulder popping out in freefall or on landing. October 22, 2004 - Arthroscopic surgery to stabilize the shoulder. Fixed a substantial labral tear and tightened up rotator cuff. Mmm, painkillers. Some six, almost seven months later, I'm almost good to go skydiving again after following my Dr's instructions and being very diligent in my post-op physical therapy. All in all--it was a very long and painful process, but so worth it. My shoulder has never felt this tight and stable in my life. Have you gotten an MRI, yet? Edited to add: Keep in mind that shoulder injuries can be very different from person to person. YMMV on physical therapy, recovery times, etc. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Current: 188 Loss: -3.5 (from last week, -3 from start of new challenge) Woohoo! No more water retention! Probably all that time spent on the elliptical machine and physical therapy helped, too. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Well, you know my answer. We met on the evening of my first shoulder dislocation, and we've been together ever since! (How romantic.) I'm so happy you stuck with yer broken-wing SweetPea. Two right shoulder dislocations, both at landing (flare). Did NOT reach out for the ground and fall on my arm. I just yanked my own arm out with brute force! Let's hope surgery fixed that problem. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

A friend of mine has done that! See here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1607227#1607227 _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Well, here's a pretty good magazine: Skydiving Magazine. Not sure what you'd like in the way of skydiving manuals and other literature, though. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Uh, did you neglect to see that he earned his doctorate from the University of Heidelberg in 1975? And he worked there for 20 years as a lecturer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunther_von_Hagens I'm guessing that this is where the controversy comes from--that he wasn't given the title of "Professor," just "Lecturer." Simply titles that designate seniority, rank and function. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor Your analogies are pretty bad and incongruous with anything that we're actually discussing here. No, you can't be 100% positive about how you would feel and react to something without experiencing it. Maybe you can predict to a 99.99999...% degree of accuracy how you'd react and feel about something, but you're never going to be 100% sure until you actually experience it. No, you miss the point. I CAN condemn it. I can say anything I want about the situation, and you can, too. However, I cannot say for sure what the terrorists were thinking, how they felt, or what their reasonings behind their actions were, etc. Nor can you say for sure what the visitors of Body Worlds thought, felt, experienced when they saw the exhibition. And I asked you why that was relevant. You haven't answered. Are you ashamed to admit that it really has nothing to do with this discussion? How interesting... This is where your wonderful "imagination and creativity" get you into trouble. Now you're trying to make it personal and "imagine" the psychology behind what I'm thinking--i.e. assuming that I'm ashamed of my beliefs. Nope, not by their profession, by their demonstration of knowledge. You still haven't demonstrated why or how you're a moral or ethical expert. What you've written is still crap. Again with the trying to make it personal and trying to imagine the psychology behind my thoughts. Way to troll! Oh look! Some seemingly credible research from ONE side! Yup, tell me some other sides to the story. Preferably from the culture that practices it, and maybe firsthand accounts from some females in the culture who have been circumcised. Then you would have an INFORMED opinion, and maybe I would consider your opinion with more regard. For now, still an angry zealot. Regarding necrophilia, nazis, and other controversial drivel and dross that really has nothing to do with the discussion that you so love to throw in to muddle the issues: You've missed the point. Have an informed or educated opinion formed by getting to know as many sides as possible. Human nature is multi-faceted. You don't know them all, but you can at least try to get everyone's perspective before you throw out an emotional opinion that you've merely backed up with your emotional imagination. The fact is that these "mutilated corpses" weren't ever alive when skinned, gutted, and put into these positions. The bodies that we've been referring to were dead, are dead, and will continue being dead. And, you haven't directly observed or talked to any of the visitors of the exhbition to know what they thought when they saw these dead bodies. You cannot assume that people are thinking what your wonderful imagination has dreamt up about what YOU think about dead plasticized bodies. I'll say it again. Your "standards" are still not the universe's standards. Same goes for you. Uh, yeah we were. Looks like you're incapable of following written text, too! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Attaboy! That's a much better attitude...go get 'em, tiger! Rowr! Okay, I have no idea where that came from. Too much caffeine. I like ChrisL's suggestion for a thread title! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

PM hottamaly...she can answer all of your questions! And for you guys waiting for your new helmets--be patient!

Also, an article from the Chicago Sun-Times about it: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-hist11.html Vast Encyclopedia of Chicago goes on the Web May 11, 2005 BY TOM MCNAMEE Staff Reporter An electronic version of The Encyclopedia of Chicago -- the most comprehensive reference book on the Chicago region ever published -- goes online today, where it is even more extensive. Better yet, it's free. When published last fall, the 1,117-page print version of the encyclopedia was widely praised by critics as a stunning scholarly achievement -- a work of gravity, depth and fun. It featured more than 1,400 entries by more than 600 historians, journalists and other experts, in addition to hundreds of maps and illustrations, a dictionary of Chicago-area businesses, a biographical dictionary and a 21-page timeline. 'Not limited by number of pages' Now the online version, at www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory .org, adds several hundred more entries, more than 1,000 additional images, video of historic figures and events, and a wealth of primary source material -- personal letters, newspaper articles, artwork, legal documents and the like. A meaty essay on the famously influential Plan of Chicago of 1909, for example, includes a hyperlink to the entire book-length plan. If the online version of the encyclopedia were published as a book, it would run to more than 10,000 pages. "You're not limited by the number of pages," said Sarah Marcus, a Chicago Historical Society historian who directed the online encyclopedia project. "We were free to add, and we took advantage of that. But we weren't just going around grabbing cool images. Every image has to relate to at least two other elements in the encyclopedia or it doesn't get in. That preserves the links that move you from here to there, and it's those links that really hold the whole thing together. We didn't wany anybody hitting a dead end." For many readers of the online version of the encyclopedia, half the fun might be stumbling upon the unexpected and unknown while clicking from link to link. For example, an essay on the "Worlds of Prairie Avenue" -- Chicago's original Gold Coast -- links to an interactive map that shows how Prairie Avenue changed from 1853 to 2003, from rows of mansions for the city's elite to light industry and vacant lots. A second Prairie Avenue map shows who lived in each mansion -- the Fields, Pullmans, Otises and the like. And as you move your mouse over this map, information on each household pops up. Photographs, news articles and letters bring Prairie Avenue to life. Shows bigotry of the times Consider this telling 1875 newspaper report on a speech by a Jane G. Jones of Prairie Avenue: It seems Mrs. Jones was convinced that a new breed of Chicago men, which she derisively referred to as "Hans, Sambo and Pat," was no match for the "one perfect man" shaped by nature over thousands of years. Here's proof that at least some of the rich WASP swells on Prairie Avenue were casual bigots disdainful of immigrant Germans ("Hans"), African Americans ("Sambo") and immigrant Irish ("Pat"). Bigotry and racism, of course, have a long tradition in Chicago, as any Potawatomi Indian knows. So it's probably no surprise that when a Sun-Times reporter randomly browsed the online encyclopedia for another few minutes -- this time jumping off at "Goose Island" -- he happened upon another personal letter lamenting the rabble. This letter, from a Harriet Rosa, who lived near Kinzie and Ohio streets in the 1850s, describes the creation of an Irish immigrant "shanty town." "It was called Shanty Town and well named," she writes. "Alive with children, a few lambs, pigs, chickens, geese and ducks. There was plenty of water for them for a swim and mud holes for the pigs to have a bath in any time. All garbage was thrown out so they had a dandy time eating any time [they] took the notion to eat. That place I can't ever forget. There was plenty of whiskey ..." Map teaches labor history A goal of the online encyclopedia, Marcus said, was to make history come to life by packaging highly polished scholarly essays with a rich and colorful collection of original source material. A particularly dramatic example of this, linked to an essay about "Labor Unrest in Chicago," is a map showing the dozens of strikes, marches and clashes in Chicago in the week before the historic Haymarket Affair of 1886. A click on any incident brings up a newspaper article reporting on the event and, for about half the incidents, details about the company involved -- number of employees, hourly wage, whether children were employed, etc. The map drives home the point that the Haymarket Affair was a culmination of labor protests, not an aberration. The online encyclopedia, which cost slightly less than $1 million to create, is a joint project of the Chicago Historical Society, the Newberry Library and Northwestern University, whose media specialists developed the Web architecture. The encyclopedia's editors are Janice L. Reiff, associate professor of history at the University of California, Los Angeles; Ann Durkin Keating, professor of history at North Central College in Naperville; and James R. Grossman, vice president of research and education at the Newberry. __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)