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Yeah, I'm not sure which is worse, a floating handle, or an accidental deployment. There's little doubt in my mind at this point that the pullout is a superior system. But I'm still getting my head around what the risks are and how much of a difference it really means. I believe you have my stapler.

I see. The floaters are the result of knocking the handle loose, not the result of a half-hearted deployment attempt. So it's really not much different than knocking loose a cutaway handle or reserve handle, except for the lack of line-of-sight. You gotta protect your handles and pins in the plane. If the PUD is as secure and protected as as a BOC pull-out pilotchute handle, then the risk are roughly equal. Is this true? I believe you have my stapler.

The "Add Comment" section is an open door to just get in there and just f**k with them! Just elaborate and expand on the total BS!!! See how far we can take it. Like for instance, claim that certified adrenalin junkies can get skydiving costs covered under health insurance. I just did my part. Now it's someone elses turn. I believe you have my stapler.

What caused the floating PUDS? I believe you have my stapler.

Thanks, that is all very good and helpful information.

Nice!!! Makes hed-down almost make sense. I believe you have my stapler.

I hear ya. Yeah, I'm not going for lowest bid per se, more like best value for my buck. I'm getting the feeling that the Panic Suit may be aptly named. I believe you have my stapler.

Yep, makes sense. And one in 750 sounds about what I'm used to. I still can't get my head around "packers" packing people's mains. Back when, NOBODY touched my gear! (except for reserve re-packs.) And that's how most guys were. Packing was every bit as much a part of it as deploying. I believe you have my stapler.

Holy crap! Guess I better start using the search engine. Thanks! I believe you have my stapler.

I'm coming back after over 20 years of being on the ground. It's really interesting to be able to observe the sport partly from an outsider's point of view, and partly from a viewpoint of experience. One of the things I think I'm picking up on, is the high frequency of reserve rides. I have 285 jumps pre-layoff on Paracommanders, a Stratostar and a Pegasus without so much as a long snivel. Am I reading this right? Is there a high frequency of reserve rides, or is it just that people tend to post about their reserve rides. I believe you have my stapler.

Did anybody actually order/see/own one of these? I'm looking for an RW suit, and these look a lot cheaper than Bev or Tony. www.panicsuits.com I believe you have my stapler.

Makes me think of all the Harley parts I find along the road. Pretty soon I'll have a Fat Boy!!! (Oops...a little off-topic) I believe you have my stapler.

That vid was hysterical!!! Did you run any drop tests to determine appropriate suspended weight per bag? Just drop a single, weighted bag off a tall building and time the decent. Even 400 bags seems a little low to me. I believe you have my stapler.

Yeah, I can picture that. I believe you have my stapler.

You could say that to a friend of mine who had been junping for 30 years before he nearly went in feeling for his floating pull out that was pretty much 'in tow proof'. He switched to BOC and bought an AAD floating handle is a user error, not an equipment error. That user error is the only thing that I'm concerned about. A half-hearted pull on a throw-out can easily result in a floating handle, that I'll have to hunt for, or dump the reserve. A half-hearted pull on a throw-out is no biggie. If it comes out of the pocket, it'll most likely deploy. If it stays part-way in the pocket, I know where to find it. As far as PC in tow goes, the way I see it, it is usually the result of a packing error, mis-routed bridle, curved pin turned the wrong way or such. Packing errors like that can happen on either type of rig. I think what it boils down to, is how confident I am that I can capture a floating handle. (Dave mentioned this.) If I don't feel 100% about it, I'll convert. I believe you have my stapler.

Interesting...That makes it very close to a throw-out, no? But if a do make any mods, it'll be the total conversion to throwout. I believe you have my stapler.

I'm gonna look it over when I get it, maybe jump it a few times. And if it makes me uncomfortable, I'll have it converted to a BOC throw-out. I believe you have my stapler.

Breaking wind...that's something I don't need advice on. The rig will be mine, so I'll be practicing EPs at home, practicing deployment etc, wearing the rig around the house. I used to do this "back in the day" until it all became so ingrained that I didn't think about it at all in the plane. I believe you have my stapler.

No problem here... I believe you have my stapler.

Thanks, that sounds better than ski clothing. I have an old jumpsuit that I can fit polartech pants and sweater underneath. I want to go with really thin gloves because the rig is unfamiliar. I'll only delay enough to reach terminal, so my fingers shouldn't have time to numb up. And no, I won't go at all if it really cold. I believe you have my stapler.

I wouldn't consider myself "current". Took recurrency class a few months ago, after 22 years on the ground. Are you thinking that unfamiliar gear, marginal currency + cold weather might be pushing it a little? (I think I'm answering my own question..) I believe you have my stapler.

The rig I'm buying has one. Never jumped one. Any comments?

I'm not really planning on doing this a lot, but I might want to make a few jumps on the rig I'm buying before I send payment. These can be just 12 second delays, open at 6,000. I'm thinking I'll dress like I'm going skiing. Oh...except for the rig, altimeter, helmet etc. Is that the right approach? I live in the northeast. I believe you have my stapler.

Makes me think that perhaps it would be wise to put the entire rig in backwards, and deploy while flying back-to-earth. I believe you have my stapler.

Thanks Wendy. Problem solved! I believe you have my stapler.