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In the very long term, sure. 8-10 years, if you don't take battery costs into consideration. In the length of time that most people keep new cars in the real world, the math doesn't work. However, kudos for getting it based on features, not fuel economy. While I will never, ever have anything but abject hatred for SUVs, I can respect all 15 people who actually have legitimate reasons for getting one. By the fact that you apparently tow things, you're in that category it seems. That having been said, the Hummer H2 is a re-paneled Tahoe marketed towards retards, so expecting ANYTHING from it is really a flight of the imagination. Four fat kids in harnesses running towards McDonald's can probably outtow one of those pieces of shit cavete terrae.

Which is why I specifically mentioned financial sense in my original post. As for the conservation side of things, that's a different ballgame that I don't consider myself to be familiar enough with to debate. cavete terrae.

That doesn't make financial sense. Conserving fuel doesn't save money when you have to pay more for the car to get the fuel savings, unless you're looking VERY long run. If Car X petrol version costs $25,000 and gets 20mpg, and Car X hybrid version costs $30,000 and gets 30mpg, it will take you EIGHT YEARS to break even by buying the hybrid, based on 15,000 miles a year and $2.5/gallon. At that point, it's probably about time to replace the batteries. That isn't gonna be cheap, and you're back in the hole. cavete terrae.

and how long will it take to make up the extra cost of the hybrid powerplant via savings in fuel costs? Those things really don't seem to make financial sense unless it's company-supplied and you have to pay for fuel, or you drive A LOT. cavete terrae.

I don't even need that We're allowed to punch clouds at my new DZ, which I haven't had the opportunity to do yet, but I'm looking forward to it. cavete terrae.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=705+5th+Avenue+S,+Seattle,+WA&daddr=27+Baker+St,+London,+England&layer=&ie=UTF8&sll=46.420285,-60.25786&sspn=84.259162,185.625&z=3&om=1 Step 19 in particular might be tough for most people to handle. cavete terrae.

Are you kidding? It tastes like cough syrup. I mix it with lemonade before I work out, it's the only way I can stand the taste cavete terrae.

I was mostly trying to be a complete asshole in that thread. I don't mind certain tattoos in certain locations, because I can ignore them cavete terrae.

Lucky for me, she doesn't like skydivers. To be fair, I only qualify as a skydiver because I skydive. I sure don't fit in when it comes to the non-skydiving ancillary activities and even if I didn't skydive, she wouldn't like me. I'm assuming she has taste cavete terrae.

The only thing I got from this is that you have an 18 year old daughter. ...and now I'm gonna run. cavete terrae.

YEah, I went and saw it a week or two ago, good stuff. I think the North Americans have to wait a few months before it comes out there. cavete terrae.

I'd suggest not using that figure, since it's based on a bullshit measurement. Any data that uses the BMI is inherently invalid, because it's an invalid form of measurement. cavete terrae.

Careful reading would reveal my careful choice of words: I said there's "a reasonable chance" of that mindset. Not a promise, not even fifty-fifty. cavete terrae.

My apologies, your highness. 1. I didn't know I was quoting a "famous person" 2. Even if I did, I'm not going to waste my time looking for who originally said it, because I'm not turning in a doctoral thesis… I'm making a point on an internet forum. Quite frankly, you better research everything you say, because chances are someone said it before you did, and dear lord Xenu, we better make sure we give credit lest the overlords of political correctness will come down and smite us with a soy burger. As for my opinion? Yes, it's the only one that matters, and it's the correct one to me. I couldn't possibly give a shit what other people think of tattoos, because I'm not using their taste to determine what I think of people. Some people have a fetish for women who smoke, whereas I wouldn't date one for any reason. Some people like women with tattoos, the only reason they get a second look from me is because a tattoo means there's a reasonable chance she's the kind of woman who will do something impulsive because she thinks it'll be fun, and doesn't worry about regretting it later. The ancillary benefits of associating with a woman who has such a mindset are quite obvious. So anyway, if you don't like me not "giving due credit", tough. If I happen to know that I'm quoting someone "famous" in a context where I'm not being graded or paid, and I know who that person is, I might give credit, but then again, I might not. If that person (or any person really) doesn't like that, he or she is more than welcome to come find me and file a grievance in my complaint box, which also happens to be the trash bin outside of my home. The post was originally soliciting for opinions on ass tattoos. I gave my opinion, and I will not recant it for anyone. cavete terrae.

What is your definition of "trashy"? Although sometimes I must remember to take my own advice, try not to judge based on one fact, first impression, or looks alone. Defining trashy is like trying to define attractive. Try as you might, there's no good way to do it... but you know it when you see it. cavete terrae.

I actually hate red It'll be blue, silver, or white. The blue is a lot lighter than in that pic, it seems: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Vw-poloMk_IVF.jpg That's how it'd look in real life. cavete terrae.

http://www.spiceweasel.net/albums/carwash/clean1.jpg http://www.spiceweasel.net/albums/carwash/clean5.jpg That was a 5 year old car that'd been driven in the midwest, all over gravel roads, etc etc. Imperial Hand Glaze made that possible. cavete terrae.

3m Imperial Hand Glaze is the shit for dealing with swirl marks though. cavete terrae.

I think I'm gonna end up putting the bike on hold until spring, but that'd be pretty funny cavete terrae.

TRUE! LMAO But it's purtty & easy to keep clean & even hides any tiny 'dings' it may receive over time! The only drawback with silver paint is it's one of the most difficult to 'Match' if it ever needed a paint touch-up!

The difference is that I'd never ever ever ever buy a Golf. cavete terrae.

Yeah, I had a black car before, and made up a very very very politically incorrect joke about it. In any case, not only it is hard to keep clean, but it shows paint damage better than any other colour. On the other hand, silver is pretty much no-effort to keep clean, but it's a total soulless conformist colour. cavete terrae.

Don't just look at horsepower figures. THat's so... American Look at the torque figures. Torque moves cars, horsepower sells them. cavete terrae.

Rabbit is a Golf, which is quite a bit larger and way heavier. That's similar to the car, but not quite the same. That's the 1.4, we've got the 1.9 here. I don't know if it'll ever go to the US. The 1.4 does about 60MPG -combined- average, and about 70 on the highway. The 1.9 does 60 -highway-, and about 50 combined. cavete terrae.

It's small, it weighs 2,600lbs and has a diesel powerplant. Trust me, if it doesn't get the full 60ish, it'll get closer than anything sold in the US. This isn't one of those "you have to drive it unrealistically" hybrid tardmobiles. All the power is very low in the rev range, and it's geared to be smack on the most efficient part of the powerband at 110km/h. cavete terrae.