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Would you marry a stripper?

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At this point, despite all the things you like about him, would you turn down a date with him just because of his career?


Actually, I have. Some of the more interesting conversations I have with people are about their jobs. I hear about my friend Heidi working with all kinds of animals. I hear about Jim and what he's learned about the market. My friends do some pretty amazing things. It makes for good conversation.

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Also, do you think that the bellydancer who you recently posted a link to has lower standards than you do because she is using her body to make a living?


It depends. My teacher doesn't use just her body. She's studied the long history of it, etc.
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I guess for me; if I was in love enough with someone and knew them well enough that I would want to marry them, what they did for a living wouldn't really matter. Does your typical (though I hate to use that word when talking about individuals) stripper come equipped with a whole set of issues? Odds are yes (not making a comment about the morals or ethics) for whatever reason. But so do alot of professions and/or lifestyles. It's like saying "would you marry a stockbroker", or "would you marry a cop". I guess the point of the matter is this, only you are qualified to make the decision as to whether or not you want to be with someone, and if you can be accepting of whatever they bring to the table, then go for it. Love is like that.

Just my 2 cents.

And, in the interest of full disclosure, I must say that I like a little wild streak in a woman...
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It depends. My teacher doesn't use just her body.



I can't think of any jobs that use just your body.

I can understand if you wouldn't want to marry a stripper because he wouldn't fit in with your lifestyle. A career can be important in some ways - like I probably wouldn't want to marry a musician who has to travel six months out of the year (and have ended a relationship partly because of that). But you really did imply that you were better than strippers, that you have "higher standards", and I think that is a very broad generalization that is pretty insulting to a lot of people who don't deserve that.

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OK How about an opinion from a "Stripper" Which I happen to be, SURPRISE!
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oh yeah, ever see my website on the other things I do www.nocturnalcreationsonline.com You should all really check it out even though I need to update it a bit. It has my sewing, my acting resume, Fire performances and a TV show I am on.



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What a person does for a living does say a lot about them. It's what they choose to do with a good chunk of their time. I like to be intellectually stimulated at work (because that's where I am for 40 hrs a week), so I want someone who has the same.

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I think what my job says about me is that I am incredibly open minded. I never judge the people that come in. One thing I do at work is I see a gentleman sitting alone, maybe depressed I usually go have a drink with them (a lot of time it's on me) cause I have a heart and try to give them someone to listen to and no cost to them. As well as giving money to the homeless on the way to work. So what does that say about me?

To the other point in question, I have have had some of the most amazing conversations with people at my job about philosphy, life, death, religion etc I get to choose what I do at work. I have met people that have help me with business, huge purchases etc. without expectations of sex or anything.

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You mentioned how many of us have been naked when we were partying at the DZ and how it feels good.

Yes true we also have sex but we don’t do it for money.
I think that’s is my main issue with it for ME.
You life is your choice. But I think you are being unfair to say we are closed minded. I don’t see how me not wanting my wife to be naked in front of strange men who are stuffing money down her panties is being closed minded. There is many ways to make money that I consider as not moral. I think me and some others don’t view money as the only way to measure success.

Good luck.



Some people do have sex for money, no reason to look down on them. It is what they choose to do. I would say your choice for your wife isn't close minded, as long as others doing it arn't judged . I would say your choice is as equal to not wanting your wife to work in an office job that you wouldn't care for.

I don't measure success by money I really don't make as much as you would think, but it gives me freedom to perform art and persue other things I enjoy.
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It depends. My teacher doesn't use just her body. She's studied the long history of it, etc.



I have actually studied the art of Stripping, where it began and how it all came about. It used to be called burlesque and I like to think I carry on the tradition. Started with Bettie Page, Lillie St. Cyr, Sally Rand and also incorporation short skits where men were also involved. Shall I go on?
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hey you cant mention the history of burlesque without the name Josephine Baker ... B|

you could even argue it goes back to Salome, and before that the rites of Astarte/Ishtar... modern belly dancers like to pretend there is a difference but its not significant... its simply more 'respected' as an art form, while 'stripping' is the commercial variant..... the result is the same... arousal... yet because of the distance of time on form gets respect while the other is vilified...
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Hey!
I enjoyed to read this thread.
Thank you Fireflytx for your posts. I respect girls like you.
I know several (about 10) skydiving girls who used to be a strip-dancer. They all are very good persons, good-looking chicks and experience skydivers.
There are the huge difference between a strip-dancer and a hooker. There are the girls of the both types working in every strip club.
A girl have to use her brains to sell her dance. The tips depends on the results of the moral satisfaction every guest wanted to get. Plus the imaginations of the good movements and nice body.:P The task of the experience and smart strip dancer -- to find the proper technique of the contact. It's related tight with the psyhologie. A girl should be intelligent to spoke with the different men most of whom are much older and have some family/job/other problems. Most of guest come to strip club to get a relaxation, watch something cute and speak with yound beautifull girl. But not to leave a couple of hundrets there! and not to buy a hooker.
So good stripper is like a good psychoanalysist :)Another type -- hookers are dancers too. But they have to have nothing except the thing they already have being females. It's easier. But it's out of moral and anyways they has no future in theirs career. They are like the blow-up rubber girls. Plus it's simply dangerous. They haven't brains. They are toys not the humans.

And in general the strip dance is absolutely normal activity. I'm pretty sure that every girl (included all the members of the entire dz.com female community) likes:
1)to dance
2)to be hot:)3)her body
4)the men impressed by seeing she and speaking with she
5)to flirt

and i know that most of girls like to dance wearing underwear or nothing than nobody's watching, moving in front of the big mirror (atleast to checked how big is theirs ass), and dreaming in the bathroom;)

If i was a man i would'n marry at all.:)


Sorry my poor english please
Between two evils always pick theone never tried

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A girl have to use her brains to sell her dance.



If that's what lets you sleep at night, man. I have been to a strip club, the art of seduction isn't dependent on brains. There are a good many less-than-intelligent seductive women out there... that can dance and count tips.

I don't have anything against strippers. It's their choice and their body. I definitely would not consider it a respectable contribution to society, though, and that's my opinion. But, like I said, it's their choice and their body.. I just wouldn't do it and wouldn't marry someone who did. I don't think Vallerina is trying to insult anyone, she has stated that she'd not marry a stripper and her reasons why. Everyone yells "respect the strippers", but who yells "respect people's opinions"?

again, jmo,
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I posted this as a lark. Didn't think it'd be thread of the day or anything. I just like to drink beer at Pacers.... you know it's just a kiss away....

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I used to pride myself on dating strippers er exotic dancers, barmaids, and weed dealers. Something about getting for free what most guys pay dearly for.
Fun girls; a few might have made good mamas but for the most part hornball nutcases. One really sexy hard core chickflinching in pain; was a burlesque star on the Ms gulf coast. I would occasionally see her show and always pick her up. It was great; but she got busted at a hotel when I thought she was at the club. GoodBye!
Too tired for that shit now, give me a hippy chick!

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I love my partner for who they are, NOT what I want them to be.


That's fine. I want someone who uses their mind at work. That's a part of who they are. I also want somebody who has a similar sense of humor as I do. Should I not rule out people who tell lame jokes because I should love them for who they are?
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Everyone yells "respect the strippers", but who yells "respect people's opinions"?



It's not neccesary to write about it. The forum's rules said "no personal attack". I didn't wrote you must respect the strippers. And i'm not respect all the strippers. I just wrote my own opinion about them.
That's all just about the job that IMHO shouldn't be like a stamp on somebody's face.
Well... we can start another thread about the relationship with that young bussines-ladies who prefer to care about theirs career in chief's bed for example. Or about the young men who sells weed after the working day they've spent in office.
Every man whatever he has to do at work has to choice what limits of moral he wouldn't push in his career.
I don't mean somethig like "I wouldn't sell weed to kids under 21".:)

My respect to all the posts here.
Between two evils always pick theone never tried

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